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Cubicles & Christ: In Pursuit of Spiritual Authenticity
Dealing with our Past to Move Forward in God's Purpose
May 07, 2018 Cubicles & Christ with Kelley Johnson

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What part of your past is informing your present? What do you already know about yourself that the Holy Spirit is bringing back up in your life?

How do you make time to connect to who you really are and aspire to be? We often mistake "busy-ness" for accomplishment.

The risk of not dealing with the past or our dysfunction, is that we recreate the same trauma over and over again. Or we can invest the time to heal so that we can experience joy. Comparison is the thief of joy.

The faithful love of the Lord never ends! His mercies never cease. Great is his faithfulness; his mercies begin afresh each morning. Lamentations 3:22-23

Meet my Guest, Britni Cannon:

One of Britni's favorite quotes is, “Life is change. Growth is optional. Choose wisely.” Karen Kaiser Clark

Britni is a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Nationally Certified Counselor. Britni graduated from Texas Woman’s University in Denton, Texas with a Master of Science in Counseling and Development. Britni's experiences include non-profit organizations, domestic violence agencies, public schools, and inpatient psychiatric hospitals. Currently, Britni provides services in a private practice, Mind Matters Psychiatry MD, with locations in Flower Mound and Frisco. Britni also serves on the board of directors for Denton County Friends of the Family, a non-profit agency with the mission of providing compassionate, comprehensive services to those impacted by rape, sexual abuse, and domestic violence, while partnering with our community to promote safety, hope, healing, justice, and prevention. In her work with adolescents, adults and couples, Britni has a sincere and genuine approach to her sessions, building a deep sense of trust and providing guidance and healing to her clients. She believes that building a trusting and comfortable relationship is the first step in the healing journey. Bringing warmth and compassion to each of her clients, she allows individuals to feel safe to explore deep and often challenging issues. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1:0:05Hello and welcome to keep a course and Christ Kelly Johnson, certified leadership coach and founder of be well. My soul is on a mission to encourage and inspire you to be spiritually authentic and thrive in life. Let's join the conversation with Kelly now.

Speaker 2:0:23Have you ever had an Aha moment? Maybe you've been in a conversation talking to someone or maybe you've been in a time of prayer and a light bulb goes off. Today we're going to talk about Aha moments and I'm joined by my good friend, Brittany cannon. Brittany is a licensed professional counselor. She's a nationally certified counselor, a graduate of Clark Atlanta University, as well as Texas woman's university. Brittany, thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks for having me. Kelly. Excited to be here. Yeah, so you shared with me a quote by Oprah and we'll get to that in a second, but oprah talks about Aha moments quite a bit on her talk show back when it was still on the air, but let's talk a little bit about spiritual authenticity first, and I'd love to hear your take on that and how does that. How is that resonating with your life today?

Speaker 2:1:23I think central authenticity is very important to us. I think that we can't determine our purpose, um, spiritually, um, until we find that authenticity and so we have to figure out if we're being real with ourselves in genuine and definitely, um, learning to love yourself through the process of owning your own story and that whatever is for you will be for you and the ups and downs are part of the authenticity, um, process and just working with those and accepting them as a part of the process as well. Hm. I love how you said owning your own story. What does that mean? What does it look like when you own your own story? So it means, you know, being vulnerable, being open. I'm not carrying the guilt and shame about who we are and what we are, the mistakes that we've made, because that's all part of the process.

Speaker 2:2:16You know, you can't be real and genuine if you don't acknowledge all of who you are and what makes you and what, um, God has said about you as well. Um, and so on. I think that's important too. Really love yourself through that process and own it. Ooh, but that is so hard. Very hard. I mean, it's good. It's really great what you're saying. I can see sort of the power and the benefit of owning all of who we are. First of all, God loves all of who we are. Sure. And it's interesting that, you know, we can acknowledge that God loves all of who we are, but we don't always love all of who we are. No, because we've been told that it's not great. It's wrong. Don't tell people that you should be ashamed of that, you know, there's so much that we hold in secret and so that secret keeps us, you know, burden and it keeps us heavy and it keeps us from reaching what we, what God would have us to reach.

Speaker 2:3:16And so I think that, you know, the first step is, is owning it and sand it is what it is and I am who I am and I can't know. I can't change it. And it's Kinda one of those things, you know better, you do better. Yeah, absolutely. And I think even in sort of this world of hosting parts of your life on instagram or parts of your life on facebook, we're really conditioned to only show the best of who we are, right in so many different ways. And I think we naturally do that just in normal relationships and normal interactions. Um, but I think sort of this facebook, instagram, twitter world, we only show, we're accustomed to Alicia in a piece of who we are. Yeah, I call it the representative. We don't show that you would want to be, you know, it's Kinda like when you're dating somebody, put that best foot forward, you put that representative out there and allow people to see what you want.

Speaker 2:4:13And now with social media you can create anything you want. That is so true. The representative that I went to bed, so you haven't shared with me, um, a little while ago, this quote from Oprah and it really spoke to me. Can you share with that code is about Aha moments. Sure. Over describes it as, um, something that you already knew. But what Mason a Aha moment is remembering what you already knew, articulate it in a way that resonates with your own truth, and so she says it's not about teaching but it's about helping to remember. And so I kinda like to break that down and say, you know, it's, it's always there, but it's a new way of connecting to the experience. You've always known that that history or that memory or that you know, whatever it is, is always been there, but now it begins to take on a different meaning at a certain point in your life and I think you have to connect through to the process to be able to see it differently so that it can resonate in a different way.

Speaker 2:5:22I really love what you said about a new way of connecting to inexperience and I think that might be one of the reasons why I was really excited about you being on the show. It really stems from a passion or an interest of mine that women in particular really take the time, invest in the time to do the work, roll up your sleeves and figure out what part of your past is informing your present and what part of that should you deal with and allow the Holy Spirit to heal and transform. But I, I guess I feel like so many of us really struggle with taking a look back at the past, briefly not saying we should dwell there, but taking the time to do the work. And so what are your thoughts about that? I think it's essential. I don't think that we can really understand who we are.

Speaker 2:6:18It sets the sum total. Um, and I think that you can't have the insights and the discoveries if you're not willing to dig in the dirt and some of it's not pretty, you know, and some of it's really great moments and yet we all want to relive those, but we have to realize how those negative moments that we tend to see them as. Because I think especially as women and working women and things of that nature, we get so lost in our roles, but if someone, if one were to say, tell me who you are. We just started our roles, but we don't say, you know, I am a lover of Christ. I love the color purple. I love to do this. I love, you know, we don't really connect with ourselves. We connect to who we'd been told that we are. That's really good because I guess just, you know, we don't connect to who we really are.

Speaker 2:7:17I think on the one hand it's super easy to get caught up in the hustle and bustle of life and so it's almost like, you know, you have time to connect and we think nobody cares anyway. They all, they want to know what we can provide for them is what we tend to think, you know, about our dealings with other people. But if you are not connected to yourself, how can I provide anything to someone else? And even if we're not connected to ourselves, how connected are we really to the Lord? So the Lord? Absolutely, absolutely. Because if we're keeping it, we're keeping our own selves, our own hurts, our own streets. Even sometimes we don't, I think acknowledge our own talent. They sort of minimize them or we don't nurture them and cultivate them. That's another way of sort of not really being connected to yourself in whatever way.

Speaker 2:8:13We're not connected to ourselves. I think it also really limits what the Lord in your life. Absolutely. And we've a lot of times I think we think busy is an accomplishment. Busy is usually a distraction, you know, and it keeps us from connecting, quieting ourselves to hearing what God would have us to do, what he would lead us to do, what the Holy Spirit wants for us, what our own bodies and minds are telling us sometimes too. We just push and push and push and because we think busy is an accomplishment, we could go back to spend a whole hour talking and maybe not even paying attention to what our bodies are telling us. Because sometimes when we don't deal with the past or don't deal with maybe just pain, maybe it's not even the past. Maybe it's like right now pain, sometimes that manifests in physical pain, physical conditions even if left unresolved and physical stress is harder on our bodies if we don't process the mental, so our bodies begin to process the mental whether we want to or not and that's how it comes out in, you know, pains, aches, sickness, illness and that kind of thing.

Speaker 2:9:30And that toll on our bodies lasts longer than the mental distress if we deal with. So really, and I think, I think that's just another area, another maybe another reason why it's so important to embrace these Aha moments and we'll talk about that in just a second in deeper detail in a second. I want to get your opinion on how, how do we make sure we are leading space to pay attention to these Aha moments, but before we get to that, you're a licensed professional counselor. You work with clients about a number of areas of their life. I'll just kind of leave it like that, but your trauma abuse depression, I'm sure are just a few, correct? Correct. Okay. So what do you think are some of the reasons it may take a while for us to even experience Aha moments? Like what prevents us maybe in your opinion?

Speaker 2:10:29Well, I think sometimes we just don't want to deal with it too. A lot of us and we don't realize that we, because trauma becomes comfortable. We spend our lives recreating that trauma and it may not be the exact same trauma, but we spend our lives recreating that trauma so we have those same feelings because it's comfortable. Um, and we get stuck in the comfort and you know, we, we tend to do that as people and it's what's known, you know? And so it's definitely hard to experience a Aha moment because we know how to cope with what we have something different, something new is hard and we don't have time for that. We don't want to deal with that were adjusted and comfortable with what we're experiencing already. So how would you help? How do you help clients who maybe are resistant to going to an uncomfortable area?

Speaker 2:11:27An uncomfortable experience? Because it's new. I need help people get out of their dysfunction. You know, I'll tell you, when I see clients, most of them, some, it's rare that they come in and say, okay, I'm ready to dive into this trauma in my history and that kind of thing. Um, and you know, it's just a lot of times I just build that rapport and listen because a lot of times we feel like people don't really want to listen. And something about when you're paying someone to do that, you feel more comfortable with sharing. Um, but it's, it's, it's time, you know, I'll say a lot of the clients that I see are long term, um, and, you know, we just go slowly and I tell them when I first meet with them on, I'm the counselor who let me trust me that I'll push you when you need to push and I won't let you fall when it's too much.

Speaker 2:12:21Um, and so we talk about that and you know, it's really just building the relationship. But, you know, I tell them kind of just what are said a few minutes ago. You can spend your life recreating that same trauma and still feeling the same way, or you can spend your time and effort healing those pains and experiencing joy because I, I talked to my clients a lot about the difference between happiness and joy and I think we all want happiness, but I think that's an emotion. That's a feeling. Um, that's an emotion. Excuse me. Joy is a feeling and that comes with peace. And so happiness is fleeting. Joy's consistent. And because if, when you're experiencing joy, you get to decide how do I feel about this situation? How am I going to press through this? Yes, I may be sad, I may have difficulties, but I'm gonna choose not to give away my piece, which is I think equates more to joy because I think a lot of us are looking for happy and happy.

Speaker 2:13:20It's not always present. Amen to that. No. So we talked about Aha moments in dealing with trauma, pain, different life experiences, but let's maybe make it a little bit more tangible in case someone's listening saying, okay, but what are they talking about? Like really? Sure, absolutely. Um, I think I shared this with you, Brittany previously, a pretty significant Aha moment as an adult happened in my career in the workplace, so, so much of what we talk about cuticles and Christ is about how do we live out our faith in the work that we do. Well sometimes those Aha moments, I think God uses work to bring out Aha moments and that was a really key experience for me. So just to kind of share, um, I had started a new role at a new company. I've been there just a year, so it was just time for my first performance review at this particular organization.

Speaker 2:14:26And when I met with my supervisor at the time who happened to be an executive vice president, he talked about my performance and you know, things were pretty good. But then he kind of got to the interpersonal communication section on the performance review form and he was like, you know, Kelly, you're kind of like a piece of. And as I'm sitting there trying to process that comment and process that feedback, I really didn't understand where he was coming from. I knew it wasn't good, but I didn't really understand what he meant and so then he went on to describe and I'll try to preserve a little bit of my roots, small ego and just give the high level bullet points, but he basically said it's really hard to get to know you and keep people at a distance. And he didn't say it that Nice. So I'm given the flowery version, the version that I.

Speaker 2:15:27and when I left, you know, after I picked my face up off the floor and left his office, I had to think about that and I started asking myself, okay, why, why am I coming across that way? Why is he perceiving the display? And what I realized is that it was connected to my past. It was connected to my childhood. I grew up with a really difficult experience as a kid. Um, you know, there were times where we were not sure how we were going to eat and I learned to hide. I learned to hide what was happening at home and in order to hide what's happening, can't really share.

Speaker 2:16:11You can't be an open book. And easily cover up the pain and the hurt that you experienced when you go back home. And so what I realized is that even as an adult, I was bringing that into my career and I had a choice to make and I had to overcome my own fears about being more open to people and that wasn't an overnight flip. The light switch on experience. It was one that I had to really work through because it came from years and years of conditioning. And I just share that as an example because I think sometimes we minimize why am I showing up in my career, in my profession, in my business? Why am I showing up in the way that I am? Some of our personal or personality traits that show up in the workplace are heavily influenced by our past. And I want to encourage people to drive, to really grow, to accomplish all that God has for them.

Speaker 2:17:11But that means we've got to put in a little bit of work. So what do you say about that, Britney? Absolutely. I think, you know, when you said a great word and you said conditioning, you know, and what I think of that I kind think of, you know, working out, lifting weights, you know, you don't build the muscle overnight and it takes consistent. Um, I've heard a consistent, uh, requirements on your part to keep going to the gym and keep getting that conditioning and you, you know, you look up one day and you start to see the changes. Right? And I think that's kind of how our lives are, just it happens, you know, the conditioning, the behaviors, how we adapt to things, um, ms dot based on what we experienced and what keeps happening to us from. And so we began to learn how to respond to that and it's sometimes it's healthy and sometimes it's unhealthy, but 90 percent of the time it's survival, you know, to get through that situation and you know, you can say something to one person and they take it just fine and then say the exact same thing and the exact same way to another person and it.

Speaker 2:18:17Okay. So I'm totally in a different manner and I think that's the conditioning that we've had from our environment, from our experiences and you know, to be able to grow, we have to have that awareness and that awareness creates the innovation and the shift to be creative, to do something different. And I know that sounds. I had to kind of talk about creative creativity and innovation with changing our past behaviors, but it is, you have to have that awareness and decide to do something different. That's all innovation is, is wanting to do something different. I like putting in that frame of reference of creativity and innovation. Can you think of an experience in your own life where you had that and an awareness or an Aha moment maybe how you were able to start creating your new reality? Yeah, I'm absolutely. And you know, it's interesting.

Speaker 2:19:13I think a several minutes, you know, you want to pick the one that's most impactful. Right? And so, um, I think that for me, um, I was going along in my career for a long time and things were being kind of handed it to me and I was kinda falling in positions that didn't really excite me. But hmm, you know, financially they were fine. They worked right. And I knew that I was capable of doing these positions. Um, and so I got to a point in my life, um, in my career in 2010 going into 2011. Well, everything that I thought I knew shifted, I just had a brand new baby. Um, my husband and I were struggling, um, I had two jobs at that point, but they were both kind of contract position. So we were doing really well financially and every last one of those things that I thought that God was going to consistently provide changed.

Speaker 2:20:12Um, and so that's really hard when you think that everything that you've worked for, um, and that you're used to and become comfortable in shifts and changes. I'm lost. Both of the jobs ended up having to move. And so, but God led me to my career choice that I've always, always wanted to do. And so out of necessity in brokenness, I said, God, whatever you have for me, lead it, leading me to it. Um, and he did and he led me to working on my. And I always thought I am, I, I, you know, I graduated with my Undergrad 12 years ago, you know, I'm a mom, I've got kids, I've got this, I've got that. I've got to work, how am I going to do this completely different career path. But I also knew that every career I looked at, I needed dismasters, um, to be able to do it in really feel fulfilled or not position.

Speaker 2:21:11And God led me to it and I felt completely unqualified and unworthy. And I remember coming home from the interview for the Grad School, I submitted my application and everything. I remember coming home from the interview and thinking that was the worst interview I ever had. No Way am I going to get into Grad school. I felt like I had no cognitive bright ideas and the interviews and things like that. Um, and so I, I had made up my mind that, okay, I'll just apply, reapply the next time it comes around and you know, the way that God works, even when you think you're at your worst and there's nothing left he provides. And I got into the first, first round, first attempts and you know, God just blessed all the way through my experience and it wasn't easy. Um, there were a lot of difficult things in the process, but God was able to use each of those difficult things to show me, you know, I know the plans I have for you.

Speaker 2:22:09I'm always here for you. I have a hope for your future and I'll do my best to provide for you and always well. And so I think that created that, you know, spiritual awakening and authenticity for me to know that God has my best interest at heart always. And so I think that was for me, it, it led me to a process of knowing that through the hills and the valleys, he's always there, always there. And you know, those experiences are growing experiences and learning experiences. You know, you have to be thankful for the hills and valleys as well. I'm really trying to hold back the tears.

Speaker 2:22:50Don't cry because if you cry I'll cry. Sorry. I'm trying to like. Okay. What did you get it together? Because I think you said some really powerful things that I have also experienced in my own life and that is out of necessity and brokenness that that is where God really can manifest his love, his power, his purpose for you. And it's interesting because that's the very thing that we fight. Absolutely right. We, we, we will go down like clawing and scratching. Not none of us wants to get to a place of brokenness, right? Or hitting our own version of rock bottom. Absolutely. And it's, it's amazing that that's where so much of his power really manifests and you know, we don't want to get to rock bottom because we're so attached to those roles. Like usually pronto means God shifting that role that we think is so important to us and that makes us, you know, that mom, that life, you know, this position and our job and it's not that.

Speaker 2:24:04It's that we're daughters of the king or whoever got ad sets, we know when we're fearfully and wonderfully made in his image and we forget that and focus on what we create it per se in our own minds. So loosely. I think you also said a really key word about when you did the interview, by the way. Thank you for being so candid and transparent. Absolutely. I really appreciate that. Um, that you mentioned about feeling unqualified and unworthy during the interview process. And what came to my mind was a Moses and esther. Absolutely right. I mean, I'm sure there's other examples in the Bible, but those two came to mind first. You know, Moses was like, I stutter, I'm not a good speaker. And so God provided through Ingram. Right? So Aaron was his, his sources, his mouthpiece, so to speak. And then, you know, esther really had to be prompted by Mordecai to embrace your, the queen. Like we need you to act like a queen and save your people.

Speaker 2:25:17She didn't even have the self awareness of how critical her role was until it was really, really forced upon her. Um, and she was really challenged to take that risk, that bold leap of faith, just like what you had to do to go to Grad school. Um, and I don't know, I don't want to make, I don't want to make this more emotional than what it is. But can you share like how you knew or maybe when you knew that you really want it to be a counselor? I know it's tied to your. Yeah, absolutely. Um, so I had an aunt that I was super, super close to and she struggled with the, you know, her history and some of the things that happened in her life and never really, really resolving those things. And so instead of resolving them, she chose to ignore them and escape them.

Speaker 2:26:13And so she chose alcohol to do that and she had a lot of other things going on. She, um, every kind of cancer that you can think of, she experienced and thought through. Um, and we were, like I said, super close from childhood, I would spend a great deal of time with her. She experienced a divorce and, you know, the cancer, the diagnosis to back and it just kind of broke her down and who she thought she was always highly spiritual, always, um, you know, believed in God and knew that God's had his power, but she struggled with alcoholism. Um, and ended up having to go into a Rehab Facility for her alcoholism and I went to visit her there. And in that moment I knew that that was the career that I want it. I want it to be that support system because being her support system for me meant everything because she had been my support system so long.

Speaker 2:27:14And so to be able to repay that to her in that way was, you know, it had been, it wasn't even a second thought for me to go. Um, but being there and having that experience, I was so moved by that and I was like, this is what I have to do. And unfortunately, um, due to cancer and other complications, she passed away before I graduated with my master's. But I always knew that I had her in my corner cheering me on and that it was the right thing to do because I saw the impact that it made for her and then I, you know, it did have the opportunity to tell her, um, well before she passed away that, you know, I want it to do this, um, because I was inspired by her and, you know, of course you kind of brush it off like inside, but I mean look where I am, that kind of thing.

Speaker 2:28:03But you know, her vulnerability and openness about her story and her experience helped me. And so I think that's the key of being open about her experiences and not hiding in the shame, um, because we can help them bless someone else through our experience. That's how I got the counseling is such a blessing her, you know, her role in your life. But even just how God used that to call you. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, we always say, you know, help you somebody else's rock to rock bottom to kind of lift us up and curious when we should be. So, um, you know, I'm thankful for that experience. I'm thankful for the blessing that she was in my life. Um, and I'm thankful for, you know, all the things that she taught me in mainly no matter what you still praise, she would come from chemo treatments and get our usher uniform on and be the first one they're ushering, you know, standing on her.

Speaker 2:29:08I'm ready to go, ready to start with that and ready to be a gatekeeper in his house. So, you know, I was inspired that if she can do that in the midst of feeling what she was feeling, then I can do, you know, serve God and, and unhealthy. You know, we're going to wrap up in a minute and pray, but I would love for you to maybe share any advice for maybe someone who's experiencing some pain and uncertainty right now. What suggestions would you make? Um, first I would always, you know, say trust. No, I'm my biggest suggestion is turned to the Bible because everything that we experience, nine times out of 10, it's in that, in that word, in a word is in there to help encourage us and remind us that we can keep going. And then I would also from you know, just a, a counseling perspective with therapeutic perspective.

Speaker 2:30:05Say that you know, you don't have to deal with all of it at one time, you know, if, if there's one piece of it that you can get through and that's all you can deal with at the time, dealing with that. And that's it. There's no shame in not being able to do all of it and wants. There's no timeline on your healing, you know, don't put those things on yourself. Just be willing to walk through your process and do it at your pace. You know, you can't look at the person next to you and see what they're doing and see what speed they're running because they may not experience the same things that you do. They may not have the same struggles. They may not have the same joys and hope so, you know, they say that comparison is the thief of joy, so don't try not to compare.

Speaker 2:30:48I know it's hard, you know, in this world, but stay focused on your own law, in your own, your own goals and what God has promised you in what he's leading you to and especially, you know, the Holy Spirit is leading you to and pay attention to those. You know, if they keep coming up from guide and you keep hearing those things, pay attention to it. He's trying to tell you something. Absolutely. So a quick example of that, when you sent me the video with the oprah quote about Aha moments, I watched the next video that was in line on like youtube and the interview that Oprah did lit some young TV sitcoms. Star, her name's tracy goal. I can't remember if she was drunk driver the accident actually injured her husband into her kids. They were in the car with her when she crashed and Oprah said to her, she said, this wasn't the first time that you had a self warning light.

Speaker 2:31:49Go off, Liz. It and Tracy was like, you're right, it was not the first time I had a moment of I really shouldn't be doing this, and I think what you just said about if it keeps coming up is the Lord keeps bringing it up, pay attention to it, and I agree with that because I think sometimes the Holy Spirit may just sort of list her gently nudge like, Hey, get over here and if we are too busy, if we're not connecting with our, with ourselves, if we're not absolutely connecting with him, then he may have to get louder. Absolutely. Any may have to use other circumstances, other pain points to really get our attention. Like, Hey, hey. Um, and so I think that what you're saying also about how like how do you eat an elephant? It's one bite at a time. Sure. We have to address these situations, address challenges, hurts, pains, trauma, whatever it might be, one bite at a time, and to just keep moving, keep taking baby.

Speaker 2:33:02Even if it's a baby step, taking that baby step every single day. I love how one of my favorite verses is in the Old Testament about how the mercies of the Lord never cease is compassion never ends. It's new every morning. Great is your faithfulness. I might be saying in the song version, I'm not sure I agree with it. I think that might be a Snob, but I'm. It's just that every morning we wake up and we have a new dose of narcy. Bam right there. Absolutely. When you have to do anything, our feet have not hit the floor and Bam, we got new mercy today and I think sometimes there have been many days that that verse is literally all I had to hold onto and I would imagine urge everyone to whatever verse speaks to your soul. That's all you have to hang onto. Hang onto that word of God every single day until you can take bigger steps, bolder steps, and with the word of God and as much as you can throughout the day.

Speaker 2:34:12Just keeping yourself encouraged by the word and by his presence, you can continue to work through whatever challenges might be. Absolutely. And you know, there was a proper, so there's 31, proverbs one for each day and one of the month, and then you started again, you know, and a bonus one if there's only 30 days, here's a bonus of 31 sometimes just reading those and get that, getting that in your spirit before you start the day, uh, before you engage with the world, you know, helps you no reset and refocus so that you can be who God wants you to be in. Be that person that says, you know, let me, let them see you, meaning God and Jesus in me, you know? And so let's at shelf because I think that's really important. Absolutely. Tagging on that idea from proverbs 31 chapters, I remember a few months ago on, on my facebook page for be, well my soul, I did 30 days of gratefulness in every day for 30 days. I posted different things to be grateful for. And it's just really powerful when you try to look at your situation, whatever it might be, bye. Heart of gratefulness, like finding at least one thing everyday to be grateful to the Lord for right, and I know that a lot of people have gratitude and they express gratitude, but along those lines, are you expressing gratitude to the Lord or like who are you expressing gratitude to? I think it's important.

Speaker 2:35:49Some people think the universe, I say there's more power and more benefit to thinking the more that's my personal thing, but find, find one way to be thankful every day. Absolutely. We're going to close out for it. I know that you are a part of a counseling practice. For those who might be in the maybe North Dallas area or the Dallas, Texas area, how would you prefer people to get in touch with you so it's best to reach me. I'm at an email at Canon counseling at Gmail Dot and that c a n n o n c o u s e l I n g at Gmail Dot com and that comes directly to me. That's the best way and we can figure out how to go from there. If you want to make an appointment and some things. Sounds great. I really appreciate you coming on the show.

Speaker 2:36:44Thank you for being vulnerable. Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Kelly. It was a pleasure. Let's close out in prayer. Gracious father, how we thank you Lord for the Times that we're on top of the mountain and the Times that we're even in the valley or we resist. We confess that we resist our breaking points. We resist hitting rock bottom, but I thank you that when we are brought low father that your power, your love can manifest is such amazing ways and I think you the youth came to give us a life of abundance is your word, says in John Ten. 10 is the Lord. We declare a deploy, an abundance of peace and abundance of joy and abundance of healing. For every person who's listening to this show today, father, will you move in their life in a real way? Will you help them to take those small steps towards real change, towards real trust in you?

Speaker 2:37:44Will you renew their faith? Will you transform and renew their minds or how they look at situation helpless to see things as you see them? Lord, increase our faith and help us to know that you are always in control. We love you and we thank you for healing me. Thank you for healing from our paths. Perhaps healing from a recent pain more. I thank you father that you are healing someone right now for depression in the name of Jesus, we declare it. Father, we ask for healing from depression, from anxiety board, from insomnia, or someone who's not able to sleep and get proper rest. I pray that you touched him. Now. We thank you for experiencing peace that surpasses all understand and we ask you to help us to keep our mind stayed on you so that we can have that kind of. Thank you for your perfect piece. It's in your mighty and matchless name that we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Alright everyone. Until next time, thanks for listening,

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